Where Are All the Christmas Toy Train Sets?

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By dabeaner

Another Disappearing Custom -- An Electric Train Set Circling the Christmas Tree on Christmas Morning

Ever year I see fewer and fewer toy train sets advertised. It seems that the electric train set is going extinct. In years past it was standard that whenever you saw a Christmas themed advertisement with a Christmas tree, there was always shown an electric train set running around underneath it.

Every year, the number of retailers putting a toy train set in the window as part of their Christmas Holiday display has diminished to near nothing. I have noticed only one in an about a 16-block stretch, both sides, of a major shopping street close by. (I mainly walk, living in a convenient neighborhood.) That display was not even in a retail store, but in a bakery. window. And, the funny thing is, it is owned by an ex-pat middle easterner who evidently has no clue about toy train sets. The train set was a large scale, but non-operating, plastic set on a short piece of track along with cotton snow and other winter wonderland accoutrements. Looks like he was trying hard to get into the spirit of things. But, he had set it up wrong. Hard to do with just three pieces, but he managed. He had the caboose hooked up to the engine, and the coal tender behind that, as the last car. I went in and straightened it out for him. Sigh.

In all the dead tree material that I get from local merchants and newspapers, I have seen only one advertisement for a real electric train set -- sort of. That was for a Lionel G-gauge battery powered set advertised by Bed, Bath, and Beyond. I took a look at it on a recent shopping trip while getting a few other things.

Train Sets All Around the Christmas Tree

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Lionel Trains G-Gauge Steam Locomotive Electric Train Set

The Lionel trains set advertised includes one “highly detailed” steam locomotive (looks like a 2-6-2), one tender, one gondola with three removable crates, and one caboose. The G-gauge track is 12 curved pieces and four straight pieces that form a 55” x 72” oval. The train has some authentic sound effects, including bells and whistles. It has a working headlight. It is remote controlled battery operated.

If I recall correctly, it was about $130, not a bad price for an introductory electric train set.

But, the problem is, it is G-gauge track, and who knows to what scale. It is honking big, and requires a lot of space -- a G-gauge circle of track would be 55” (about 4-1/2 feet), as compared to 27” for O27-gauge, or 31” for O-gauge, or 36” for HO and On30 trains.

It is battery-powered with a remote controller. That is, I guess, to appeal to the new generation of video game players, instead of being electrically powered through the rails. It may be of no concern to most people but what really turned me off about the train set was that the drive rods and side rods were plastic, not metal. They were probably totally non-functional decoration only. But to me, that was just tacky cheap. Even the old tin-plate beginner sets from Marx had metal running gear.

O-gauge and Other Large Scale Toy Train Sets

Lionel Trains Polar Express Train Set - O Gauge
Lionel Trains Polar Express Train Set - O Gauge
Amazon Price: $249.99
List Price: $329.99
Lionel Harry Potter Hogwarts Express O-Gauge Set
Harry Potter Hogwarts Express O-Gauge Electric Train Set
Amazon Price: $185.00
List Price: $329.99
Lionel Polar Express Train Set - G-Gauge
Lionel Polar Express Train Set - G-Gauge
Amazon Price: $97.88
List Price: $139.99
Bachmann Trains Pennsylvanian Ready-to-Run Large Scale Train Set
Bachmann Trains Pennsylvanian Ready-to-Run Large Scale Train Set
Amazon Price: $232.25
List Price: $475.95

Other Retailers' Toy Train Sets

I haven't gone into Target to look at electric train sets. Their multi-colored weekly newspaper supplements do not show any real toy train sets, so there is no incentive for me there. The only train related items I've seen in their advertisements are some Fisher-Price Geo Trax Timbertown Railway sets, which are plastic caricatures of real train sets, and some Thomas Wooden Railway engines (those really stupid toys with the smiley-faces on the front, the headlight being the nose). What seems to have replaced the beginner electric train sets are these plastic and wood caricatures with only a fanciful resemblance to real trains.

I haven't seen any O27-gauge/scale or O-gauge/scale, from Lionel in years, nor S-gauge/scale, which used to be made by American Flyer.

What you mostly will see, if you see anything, is the G-gauge track trains, maybe some HO-gauge/scale, and On30 toy train sets.

On30 is kind of cool, and mostly used for novelty trains. The train sets are O-scale that run on HO-gauge track. Hawthorne Village used to run advertisements, taking a page or half a page in all the Sunday newspaper grocery coupon-clipper sections. I haven't seen any of their advertisements for a couple of years now, though. A victim of the economy or the declining interest in toy train sets?

Hawthorne Village On30 Christmas Model Trains

Hawthorne Village On30 Christmas Model Trains
Hawthorne Village On30 Christmas Model Trains

HO Scale Electric Train Sets

Bachmann Trains Yuletide Special Ready-to-Run HO Scale Train Set
Bachmann Trains Yuletide Special Ready-to-Run HO Scale Train Set
Amazon Price: $184.99
Bachmann Trains Pacific Flyer Ready-to-Run HO Scale Train Set
Bachmann Trains Pacific Flyer Ready-to-Run HO Scale Train Set
Amazon Price: $56.95
List Price: $110.95
Bachmann Trains Walt Disney's Carolwood Pacific Railroad Ready-to-Run HO Train Set
Bachmann Trains Walt Disney's Carolwood Pacific Railroad Ready-to-Run HO Train Set
Amazon Price: $176.99
List Price: $224.99
Bachmann Trains The DeWitt Clinton Ready-to-Run HO Train Set
Bachmann Trains The DeWitt Clinton Ready-to-Run HO Train Set
Amazon Price: $62.72
List Price: $125.95
Bachmann Trains 1976 American Freedom Train Gs4 4449
Bachmann Trains 1976 American Freedom Train Gs4 4449 (HO scale)
Amazon Price: $124.75
List Price: $215.95
Bachmann Trains Usra 0-6-0 with Smoke and Vanderbilt Tender - Erie
Bachmann Trains Usra 0-6-0 with Smoke and Vanderbilt Tender - Erie (HO scale)
Amazon Price: $74.99

Hawthorne Village On30 Scale Toy Train Sets

The Hawthorne Village sets seem to be good electric train sets for children.  They are O-scale in size but run on HO-gauge track.  That makes them large enough to children to handle easily, but a circle of track takes only 36”.  The Hawthorne Village train sets are (were?) made in “themed” issues.  For example, one was an old-fashioned 1800s style steam engine train with a Coca-Cola “Holiday Express” theme.  Another of their series was a modern diesel engine train that could be obtained with various sports teams logos and colors, such as the “LA Lakers Express”.  Throughout the years I have seen a “Magic of Disney Express”, a “Thomas Kinkade's Christmas Express”, and several others.  Many have common locomotive and car types, but they are decorated with the theme that was currently being promoted. 

I don't have any of the Hawthorne Village sets, so I can't vouch for their quality and reliability, but used sets can be picked up for much less than $100.  (The costs, new, were a little over $100.)  You probably can't go too wrong if you can find a good used train set on eBay or elsewhere from a reliable seller.

Marx Toy Train Layout

G, HO, N, TT model railroad track scales

G, HO, N, TT model railroad track scales
G, HO, N, TT model railroad track scales

An O-gauge "Not a Toy" Model Railroad

An O-gauge "Not a Toy" Model Railroad
An O-gauge "Not a Toy" Model Railroad

Model Railroads vs. Electric Train Sets.

The toy train sets -- electric train sets are what used to be part of Christmas. Those are what Dad bought for a relatively few dollars to run around the Christmas tree on Christmas morning. They are what every 6 to 10 year old (or older) boy wanted, along with a bicycle. Not X-boxes or wooden Thomas the Tank train caricatures. The toy train sets actually required some procedural thinking assembly and physical activity such as crawling around on the floor to fix a derailment.

The kids that really caught the bug and had the finances and space to indulge themselves, went on to build model railroads. That is a serious hobby and quite a bit more expensive and space consuming than a basic electric train set. Model railroads involve building landscapes and multi-faceted track layouts far surpassing the toy train simple ovals with maybe a couple of switches. Discussing model railroading, scale model railroads, is way beyond the scope of this article. Just look up HO-scale model railroading, for example. Look for Bachmann and others for ready-to-run sets, and Ahearn for kits.

All aboard!

Marklin Harry Potter Hogwarts Express

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Bieberella 2 years ago

Unfortunately, kids like my 10-year=old son are more interested in playing video games than setting up trains. It's truly sad!

Dana

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James McV Sailor 2 years ago

I got my first HO scale train set when I was about six, and every year until I was fifteen I think my parents (or was it Santa?) added to it at Christmas (woops, that's not PC!). Fond memories of simpler times. JM

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Abe Normal 2 years ago

Bieberella said: "Unfortunately, kids like my 10-year-old son are more interested in playing video games than setting up trains. It's truly sad!"

Sad? Huh, the sister doesn't know from sad. For one, Johnny-B [ http://www.wlup.com ] was giving away X-Box360's on the air in October, 2009, but ONLY to people who had a real guitar plugged into an amp and who would play it on the air. That is just one unambiguous reason why video consoles like X-Box, PS2, etc. (& "Rock Band," "Guitar Hero") are educational, fun, competitive, more athletic, even better than any spastic toy train set could hope to be. As well, video game software outsells DVD, CD, VHS.

Abe Normal,

Put that in the bank and smoke it.

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dabeaner Hub Author 2 years ago

Hey Abe:

All these video games are for the hyperactive ADD generation. Yeah, many of them will some day maybe make good Predator drone remote pilots, but not a one of them will be able to participate in the design of a Predator, or to convert a diesel engine to also use bio-fuel.

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dabeaner Hub Author 2 years ago

Bieberalla: Yes.

Sailor: Good for you and your parents.

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dabeaner Hub Author 2 years ago

News flash:

I saw one more train set in a window display. Makes two, whoop-de-do! This latest was the only one on one side of a seven-block stretch of shops and businesses on a trendy avenue. You know the type -- 500 women's boutiques, two men's shops, 50 Starbucks (or equivalent), and a few businesses.

The train display was in a realtor's window, not a shop window. It was around a tree and had an old, worn American Flyer 2-rail, and also a 3-rail old O-27 or O train.

Even though they were real trains as contrasted with the bakery shop train, these weren't running, and possible were not operable. But no matter, it was great to see them.

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karmadir 2 years ago

I really liked toy trains a lot, nowadays kids are more fascinated by video games.

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Beata Stasak 2 years ago

I used to play with an old fashioned train set, given to me by my Grandfather who was a train driver. It was the main mean of transport for long distances and it spurs my imagination and love of travel, but it was different time in different space, soon everyone will travel to space and kids travel there anyway through their Avatar characters...it is time to move on.

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loveofnight Level 3 Commenter 2 years ago

it seemed as if every christmas that came at least one of my 7 brothers got a train set, it seems as if they are loosing part of their popularity.

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Sandyspider Level 1 Commenter 23 months ago

I love Christmas train sets. This was fun.

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PaulGoodman 23 months ago

As far as I know, we've never had a model-train-around-the-christmas-tree tradition in Australia. Which is a shame really. Maybe as part of bringing it back to America, we can bring it to Australia. I'm sure a lot of kids missed a great tradition. Though I guess having Christmas in the middle of summer here does make for different traditions (like heading down to the beach). Perhaps we should have a beach christmas scenery then. Thanks dabeaner, you've given me some great ideas.

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dabeaner Hub Author 23 months ago

PaulG and others -- thanks for the comments. Paul, you bring up a interesting point -- how DID the custom of the train running around the tree in the U.S. and perhaps England and Germany become established? I wouldn't think it would be much earlier than the 1930s, maybe the 1920s. Someone -- Lionel, Marx, or ???? did a helluva promotion job.

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SteveoMc 23 months ago

I happen to like train sets. I had a huge trunk loaded with track and track accessories, I sold them on eBay. But I am still fascinated with the trains and their history. Thanks.

Train Sets 21 months ago

I am not sure that a train track running around a christmas tree has been a tradition in England recently, at least I have never come across it? I think it is a great idea though and adds a new dimension of movement to the christmas tree set up. I am sure kids absolutely love it as well. Nice Hub by the way!

Christmas train sets 19 months ago

Loved the Marx video, it took me back to the 027 gauge Lionels I had as a kid (won't tell you how long ago). Back then just about every child had one. Kids today don't realize what they're missing and that's a shame.

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dabeaner Hub Author 19 months ago

My first train set was a Marx. No pretensions as to "life-like" couplers or trucks. But it had a headlight! Hypnotizing to watch go around and around in the dark. Those, the Lionel 027s and the American Flyers were TRAINS! I just don't get the attraction of the stupid (IMNSHO) wooden Thomas Tank style trains of today.

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Hornby Expert 18 months ago

Its all computer games nowadays thats my theory

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peanutroaster Level 3 Commenter 12 months ago

I agree with the video games. Also lack of space and they seem to make either very expensive trains or very cheap, crummy sets. Bachmann On30 trolleys are a nice addition to ceramic Christmas towns.

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trainman2 7 months ago

Video games seem more fascinating than toy trains on the surface, but that's probably because many parents remember when a train set was something that just ran around in circles.

Granted, there was, and still is, the very real pleasure of setting up the track, and if you had operating cars and accessories, they certainly added to the play value.

In Lionel's heyday, freight trains greatly outsold passenger trains, because you could "do more" with them.

The sad irony is, with the advances like sound systems, command control, and computer interfaces, operating a model train is very much like playing a video game, and it can actually be an improvement over video games, because the trains really exist, whether the computer is turned on or not.

As for me, I've had electric trains in one form or another since I was five years old, and I've seen the changes. I like them, they make the trains more interesting.

Building a layout is a fun project, and it teches woodworking, power tool safety, electric wiring, and even track planning strategy. And many of the things real railroads have to consider, like vertical and horizontal clearences, also must be considered on a model train layout.

I also find running a model train to be more challenging than playing a video game, because in a video game, a mistake means "game over", while a mistake running a model train can destroy some pretty expensive toys.

Modern command control costs about the same price as an X box, and it enables you to run a model train at speeds that are smoother and more realistic than you can get with a transformer.

And the sound effects are great. You can install electronic modules in your locomotives that have the sounds of real trains stored on a computer chip. You can even match the right sound to the right engine.

Background sounds are also available. You can have the sound of cars on the highway, waves crashing over the beach, even the sounds of a country night.

Model trains deserve a second look. They are a more real type of virtual reality.

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glockr Level 1 Commenter 6 weeks ago

I think there are 2 reasons toy trains aren't nearly as popular as they used to be. First, real trains just aren't that big a part of American life as they used to be. I think they still are in Europe, and it seems like toy trains are still popular in Europe. Second, there just aren't that many hobby shops left, and a picture of a train set on a web site just doesn't have the excitement of a real operating layout in a hobby shop display. As for me though, I'll always love trains:)

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